I often wonder that as well, my wife is the almost the only one in her family still in. ( with the exception of an old aunt and a cousin) everyone like 15 relatives have left. including our children. she still hangs in. i had a dream the other night that she came up to me and told me she was done, i have never had a dream like that before, although its all i ever think about. I think shes still in cause she loves it. thats the only way. she believes and holds on to the dream. also she couldn't cope with it being a lie. she invested to much in it. anyone who disagrees is a evil, sex crazed, drug using, imoral, person. so much time and energy invested in a lie. same old treadmill of existence, what a waste.
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The revolving door and the hardcore ones
by dgp ini understand that the number of people who join the wt is roughly equal to the number of people who leave.
there's a small difference, overall, but in some countries the number of those leaving might even be slightly above the number of those joining.
and this has been a problem for ever.. i would like some insight into the minds of those who stay in, not because of family reasons, not because of fear, old age, parental control, but because they really believe the scam.
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Does it make a difference if you are kind to a witness?
by dgp injust a hypothetical question.
suppose you meet someone who happens to be a jehovah's witness.
suppose you get to know how he/she lives, and, though you understand you can't do much for the person, you still show you care.
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the only difference it seems to make is it makes them wonder what kind of defect you have cause your not a witness.
they don't process that good people are not witnesses. they aren't allowed to. sad really.
but from my experience they have no problem "taking" from you.
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The official "how did they react to the new light" thread
by PYRAMIDSCHEME infor those that went to meeting what was the general response to this "new understanding" of "this generation"?
at my hall i don't think anyone really got it or cared.
swallowed hook, line and sinker.
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my wife went to the assembly on "new light" sunday. she came home and asked me how long i thought a generation was, i told her to look it up in the dictionary. she did.. 30 years.. really? no kidding..
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Update on Ray, I think this needs a new thread
by coffee_black inupdating,.
it is confirmed that cynthia will be signing the papers this morning to remove ray from life support.
if anyone has posted their address on the internet, it is requested that you remove it for the safety of cynthia and those who are with her.
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opened my eyes to this cult for sure. RIP condolences to friends and family. it took a strong nam to do what he did. i admire that. i respect that.
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Memorial 2010 Your Experiences
by scotinsw injust got back from memorial.
only went so that i could say to my parents that i had gone and to remind myself why i left.. oh my word!!!
it was sooooo painful.. got there a bit late - it was a couple of minutes into the talk.
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it was just pure shit. speaker says "you must OBEY" like 3 times in a row. very strange and that god will destroy you if you don't. like a real downer. not a very encourging or thoughtfull talk at all. just a mess. a few folks were partaking, which was funny. i guess he didn't make it too clear. missapplied scriptures out the ying-yang. at leat im done till next year. unless we have some major changes. i continue to hope for change.
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I just want to share a story about someone I love ....
by troubled mind ini have to come here to brag because i have no one else to tell anymore .
i use to call my mom to brag about the kids ,but now she has past away .
i use to also call my mother -in law ,but now they hardly speak to us .... so you all will have to suffer .
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great story. amazing how folks can achive anything they put their minds to. i can feel your pride and love for her. wonderful..
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Does anyone remember when the Watchtower website first opened, it wasn't mentioned in the magazines or at the meetings for a while?
by slimboyfat ini seem to remember that from the mid-ninties onwards there were articles in the km and watchtower warning about the dangers of the internet.
as a result it seemed to come as a bit of a surprise to some witnesses i knew when the society opened up their own website.
but as i recall, when the society first opened the website, they never mentioned it in the literature or at the meetings.
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i remember them saying it wasnt for JW's. It was for non-JW's who were interested. And you don't need to go there.
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married to a born-in witness. we have 2 kids both where baptized and both are out. just hoping against hope that my spouse will be next. as time goes on it seems less and less likely thats gonna happen. I have considered leaving, but i'm too much in love. two lives goning in different directions. I love this place, lets me know im not alone and that there are people who get out. also i don't have time to keep up with the crazy "nu light" so i get it here. sometime before my spouse.
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Round here we stay up very, very, very, very late I cant see nothing, nothing round here Catch me if I'm falling . . .
by nicolaou instep out the front door like a ghost into the fog where no one notices the contrast of white on white.
and in between the moon and you the angels get a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right .
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the smell of hospitals in winter
and the feeling that is all a lot of osyters
but no pearls.
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Round here we stay up very, very, very, very late I cant see nothing, nothing round here Catch me if I'm falling . . .
by nicolaou instep out the front door like a ghost into the fog where no one notices the contrast of white on white.
and in between the moon and you the angels get a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right .
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It's 4:30 A.M. on a Tuesday
It doesn't get much worse than this
In beds in little rooms in buildings in the middle
of these lives which are completely meaningless